It can be, but it sounds very formal.
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It can be, but it sounds very formal.
Qu'est ce qui se passe avec la transcription de félicitations ? Je ne pense pas que ce soit comme ça qu'on prononce le mot, même au canada.
Ah oui, en effet. *Félicitations* devrait plutôt être "fey-lee-see-tah-syon".
Merci beaucoup pour l'aide! I'm noticing a lot more errors in the books as I go. These were a well-intentioned gift, but there's a lot of weird stuff in them. I do appreciate that you actually answered my question and provided learning materials though, that helps. Fortunately these are not my only or even primary sources of learning materials so I think it's safe to say after all this I'll just quietly retire the gift.
Ces transcriptions me hérissent le poil
Ce livre doit enseigner le français américain hahaha
cey krahn-scree-psyon mu eyreess lu puh-ahl...
I especially don't get the "tee-kah" in fey-lee-tee-kah-syon. What the hell ?
Reminds me of the translation sheets they gave to US soldiers in WW2, haha
Ça donne pourtant un très bon aperçu du français parlé par les anglophones canadiens 😆! On dirait un bulletin télé lors d'une élection fédérale alors que les candidats anglophones sont forcés de participer à des débats en français.
It’s just uncommon to do the liaison with “comment” except in “comment allez-vous ?". For example, if you ask someone how to go to the airport you would sound weird if you went “comment t’aller à l’aéroport ?"
Oh, ouais. Is it kind of like how I never hear anyone liase "trop", even if the next word starts with a vowel?
This transcription is probably the reason why i switch to english when americans try to speak french and the answer to the question « Why everyone speaks english with me while i speak decent french ? »
That goes for every language tbh
N’apprenez pas de langues avec ces transcriptions. Ça peut-être utile si vous voyagez en France et voulez le minimum mais si vous voulez apprendre la langue, écoutez plutôt comment les natifs prononcent ces mots.
D'accord ! J'arrêterai d'utiliser ces livres. Merci! I explained in the edit above but they were a gift and are NOT my primary source material. In fact I only (barely) looked at them for the first time last night, so fortunately Reddit saved me before I invested much time.
Les transcriptions sont vraiment mauvaises.
Please stop using that book. Those Anglicised French pronunciations are just awful. If you learn bad pronunciations, you'll never get rid of them. You have to learn pronunciation by listening to a native. That's the only way.
I will. The books were a gift, but I see now that they're not going to help me. Fortunately I have a tutor and listen to materials of native speakers. Merci! I won't spend more time on these books.
The pronunciations are all wrong! Please burn this book.
quelle horreur...
Learn some real fonetic symbols, like the symbols you have after the word in the dictionary, then you can pronunciate any language. But first you must incinerate that book.
Yeah IPA is really useful to learn, especially if you can understand how to apply it both to your first language and the languages you're learning. Cause then it helps to understand which sounds don't exist in your L1 and need special attention to master.
Does anyone have recommendations for books that have good transcriptions?
Oui, je veux savoir ça aussi! I was excited about these books as a supplement because they have practice tests. I do feel bad for my aunt, these were pretty highly rated in Amazon. But I don't want to practice on bad materials!
The only valid transcriptions are using IPA.
Is it just me or the book’s pronunciation of felicitations seems wrong?
I think it's actually "correct" for a misspelt/mistyped form of the word. I wonder how these books are produced.
Reminds me of a horror story in the US. I was learning French from childhood till the age of 15 in the Middle East. I moved to the US and went to the high school French class. I was told that the French textbooks were in English. I asked “what if the teacher does not know English”. They said the teacher teaches in English too. I was shocked as I was more comfortable pronouncing French than English. The anglicised pronunciations were confusing for learners. To make a long story short, I recommend connecting with French speakers in person or on an app like Hellotalk to practice pronunciation. Treat the anglicised guide as a very rough approximation.