[Coffee] "Erichs Krönung" and the East German coffee crisis of 1977. -- Or: The coffee brand so vile, it near… · r/HobbyDrama · SubRead
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[Coffee] "Erichs Krönung" and the East German coffee crisis of 1977. -- Or: The coffee brand so vile, it nearly brought down a government.
Hey friends! I thought I'd try for something a little bit different. This post is about a series of historical events that is, I think, not all that well-known outside of Germany.
Specifically, this story is about the . This was an infamous hot beverage, which contained 51% coffee and 49% don't worry about it. Originally designed as a way to ease a temporary coffee shortage, it turned out to be a complete failure - so much so that it changed the shape of the global coffee market.
Sources for this are universally in German, and I translated them myself. I apologise for any inaccuracies. Also, I don't have first-hand knowledge about life in East Germany, so take those parts with a grain of salt.
Finally, this is written chiefly to be entertaining. But the underlying information is accurate (to the best of my ability) and I've linked primary sources where possible.
PROLOGUE: A tale of two Germanies
You may be aware that the Second World War ended in 1945, and that Germany lost. It was later occupied by the Allies. The French, British and American occupation zones eventually merged, creating the Federal Republic of Germany. (This is the BRD, perhaps better known as "West Germany.") The Soviet zone became the German Democratic Republic. (Also known as the DDR, or "East Germany.")
The BRD was something that Marxists like to call a "bourgeois democracy." It had free elections, a heavily regulated market economy, and joined NATO in 1955. Meanwhile, the DDR was supposed to be socialist, had a centrally planned economy, and was a member of the Warsaw Pact. Our story takes place in East Germany.
Despite its name, the German Democratic Republic was not democratic at all. It had elections, sure, but they were neither free nor fair. (99.98% for the National Front at 98.58% turnout - sure thing, buddy.) And while multiple parties existed on paper, all power rested with the Socialist Unity Party (SED). In 1953, a popular uprising was violently suppressed with Soviet aid, and public demonstrations were off the table after that.
But the German Democratic Republic wasn't the Third Reich. Yes, it was a police state, but the government still wanted some level of voluntary support from the general population. The country was always being compared to West Germany, with its stupid "civil liberties" and its goddamn "economic miracle." To make up for this, the DDR really needed something it could be proud of.
Well, West Germany had a market economy. Those come with inevitable drawbacks, such as Inflation and unemployment and a lopsided distribution of wealth. If East Germany could guarantee a decent living standard for everyone, then that would provide a nice contrast.
And in a command economy, you can kinda just decide to have stable prices and full employment. ... at least in theory. East Germany did provide jobs for everyone, and the basics of life were both abundant and available at pre-war prices. (Milk and bread were far cheaper in the East than in the West.) And going into the 1970s, the country actually had a pretty decent economy, at least by Second World standards.
But they had also to deal with constant product shortages. There were a lot of reasons for this, and some of them were self-inflicted. (Corruption was an ongoing problem; getting even slight luxuries involved a lot of favour-trading; central planning is pretty hard.) But they also just never had enough raw materials for their industrial production. Access to global markets was limited, and Soviet exports were just never enough.
So, they had to look for substitutes. Chickens are a cheap source of meat, so let's feed goldbroilers to the people. Metal is in short supply, so let's implement the most aggressive recycling system in the world. We're not going to allow American fast food, but consider eating a nice socialist , and perhaps wash it down with a glass of Club Cola.
(1) Meet the Coffee Saxons
But there are some products where this didn't work, and coffee was one of them. The beans only grow between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, and Europe is just too far north. The climate isn't right. So, local production was not an option.
You can make beverages out of things like acorns, chicory or grain. The taste is sort of similar, but the replacement products were culturally associated with poverty and wartime deprivation, making them extremely unpopular. (They are collectively known as "muckefuck," which means something like "runny mud" or "foul wood.")
Also, Saxony had been an early and enthusiastic adopter of coffee, and the region was famous for its vibrant coffee culture. The first coffee house in Leipzig opened in 1694, and the drink was an important status symbol. In short... getting the people to give up coffee was impossible.
Similar problems existed with other consumer goods, but they were somewhat easier to replace. We can't get enough cocoa, but you can make fake chocolate out of fat and sugar, which tastes sort of okay. We can't get citrus fruits, but the humble sea buckthorn is effective in preventing scurvy. But faux coffee? No. Everyone hates this stupid grain sludge. We want the real thing.
In the end, the DDR bit the bullet and bought coffee beans on the global market. Its own currency was completely worthless, so the DDR had to use its limited hard currency reserves to get them. The coffee would then be resold on the domestic market... but these sales would take place in the worthless DDR-Mark. So the money was essentially lost.
And getting enough hard currency was a constant struggle for the DDR. They had some desirable exports, like the IFA W 50 truck, and they could also raise money by scamming tourists and reselling Soviet oil. But they really wanted to spend this hard currency on building productive capital - that is, importing industrial machinery and buying raw materials.
So, wasting it on consumer goods wasn't great. But it worked sort of okay...
An out-of-season cold snap caused the Brazilian coffee harvest to fail. Brazil produced about a third of the world's coffee supply at the time, so this triggered a market panic and a global increase in prices.
All European countries were affected, including West Germany. But remember that the Federal Republic had a market economy. Some companies passed the increased prices along to consumers; others dropped their quality standards to keep prices steady. People complained and adjusted their household budgets. But this was all just normal market stuff, and the government didn't need to get involved.
Not so in East Germany. The state set all the prices, and price stability was the cornerstone of its claim to legitimacy. The capitalists cause some sort of worldwide crisis every few years, and shielding the people from those breakdowns was the whole point of "actually existing socialism." So, prices remained stable and imports continued. In the immediate aftermath of the crop failure, expenses went up fivefold.
Something had to be done.
As we discussed above, the GDR couldn't grow its own coffee beans, and there aren't any good replacement products for coffee. If supply goes down and demand remains steady, then prices go up, but that's not an option for political reasons. Therefore, to keep prices steady, demand must go down. How do we get the people to consume less coffee?
Enter the
(3) East Germany loves the Kaffee-Mix...?
Shifting consumer habits is difficult and takes a long time. So, the thinking went, what if we kept selling coffee... but we simply used less coffee per coffee?
Thus, we have the Kaffee-Mix: A little package that is sold as coffee, and does indeed contain 51% ground coffee beans, but is stretched out with 49% filler. (Mostly grains.) The government removed the discount coffee brand "Kosta" from sale and replaced it with this mixture. So, as a worker, you could still get your beverage at the same price, but import expenses would be cut in half. Clever, right? Assuming the people accept it.
Did they? Well, back in 2003, the public broadcaster MDR did a series on East German food, and interviewed some people. They had a few things to say about the Kaffee-Mix.
Eberhard Hinkel: Oh, it's that weird bag of... well. Let's just say it really didn't agree with my stomach. It was a terrible swill.
Leni Staatz: We didn't approve of this at all. They took what little coffee was available, and they spoiled it, by adding barley or... whatever it was. It was gruesome.
Joachim Schacht: We had a few cars [at the roastery] back then, and they were obviously marked with our logo. And it did happen that people would stop us and confront us, and say to us - dear god, what is this garbage you are selling?
Manfred Uhlich: This was among the worst things we had to endure. Not just here in Saxony. It was unreasonable, plainly. I mean, we had to endure a lot of hardships, they made us suffer through a lot of things. And this was - oh, no, this awful dishwater, it was just too much!
Mr. Uhlich specifically uses the word lorge to describe the Kaffee-Mix. This is a Saxon term for a drink that is both thin and foul.
Contemporary voices were far less polite than that. People in the DDR loved a cynical joke, and here's one that was fairly popular:
What's the difference between Kaffee-Mix and the neutron bomb? There isn't one. Both kill people and spare buildings.
The Kaffee-Mix also received a variety of unflattering nicknames, with the most prominent one being "Erichs Krönung." This was a mocking reference both to a popular West German coffee brand (called Jacobs Krönung) and to the East German leader (called Erich Honecker.)
Now, voicing political dissent was a really bad idea. But East Germany did provide channels through which you could make non-political complaints, such as the Eingabe. Introduced in 1961, it gave you the right to write a letter to an official with a demand, and entitled you to a response.
These letters were universally intercepted by the secret police (the Stasi) and scanned for signs of political dissent. If you wrote something that crossed the line, you'd get a visit. But if the contents of the letter weren't political, then the Stasi would file a copy, and then forward the original to the intended recipient. Parts of the Stasi archives survived the 1990 revolution, and therefore we actually have some access to primary sources.
"Dear Dr. K.-H. Gerstner! (...) I work as a saleswomen, and all day I have to listen to complaints from our customers. And I have to admit, I share their opinion that the Kaffee-Mix (at a price of 6,- M) is completely undrinkable. It is pure rat poison. I am asking you that the producer should make a public statement on this. The Kaffee-Mix is made out of malt and barley, with perhaps a few grains of real coffee. We don't need this in our shops! (...)
Please, let the company return the "Kosta" brand to the market. The relevant producer is VEB Kaffee Halle. Please have them take this rat poison off the market. Otherwise the intelligentsia and the workers will all die very soon. (...) Thank you in advance. Signed with socialist greetings."
This wasn't an isolated complaint. The Ministry for State Security (Stasi) kept track of which complaints came up how often. If a pattern emerged, they'd inform the relevant authorities. They also employed a legion of unofficial collaborators to listen to conversations and generally take the pulse of the public.
In September 1977, the Stasi presented a report to the Ministry for Trade and Supply, alerting them to the discussions around the Kaffee-Mix. The Bundesarchiv has preserved some of these documents. Here's Report O/48, "Reactions to the Coffee Supply Problems," September 1st 1977. All instances of "scare quotes" are the same in the original.
Although there is no evidence of mass complaints, we observe that discussions regarding the supply of coffee and cocoa are continuing at elevated levels, across all parts of society. The need for austerity measures due to developments on the world market is generally accepted.
However, the new coffee brand "Kaffee-Mix" is being rejected by large parts of the population, due to its lacking quality and high price. Specific arguments on the mixed coffee include: The inappropriate price, the bad taste, and the lack of compatibility with coffee machines.
This third thing was actually a major problem. The Kaffee-Mix contained 49% whatever, and the "whatever" was generally leftover grains. But it could also be legumes. Peas are rich in protein, and proteins become denatured when heated.
Boiled eggs become hard. Cooked meat becomes firm. And coffee replacement products become disturbingly sticky, clump together, and break your coffee machine.
As the report goes on, you notice that the author is getting a little bit anxious.
Members of the population have begun to allege that the austerity measures were not designed properly, and that they only affect the "little man." In the workers' restaurants, only mixed coffee is offered; those who visit high-class hotels still receive real coffee.
Restaurants in East Germany were divided into five service classes. Your average worker would take their lunch at a Class I canteen or a Class II diner. Those had previously served the discount "Kosta" brand, and were now switched over to the Kaffee-Mix. Fancy restaurants and international hotels (Class III and up) still received premium coffee allocations.
So there you are: The "little man," choking down a cup of sticky poison, while the fancy lads in the fancy hotel enjoy real coffee. Not much of a workers' paradise.
A very frequent complaint regards insufficient communication. Even members of the Socialist Unity Party have remarked that a timely and public explanation of the causes would have prevented many of the negative comments. (...) As it stands, the duty to handle these complaints was supposedly "pushed down" lower in the hierarchy.
It has been reported that, in some cases, guests at restaurants were "shocked" and "offended" to be served Kaffee-Mix instead of coffee. This caused them to insult the servers, which in turn prompted these servers to either quit their jobs -- or join in on the tirade of complaints.
There will always be middle-aged men yelling at baristas.
In some cases, these "debates" have caused the so-called "arguments" of Western mass media to be spread and amplified, such as:
Baseless rumors circulate about future price increases that are supposedly planned for cocoa products, tobacco, alcoholic drinks, and petrol. (Price increases regarding cocoa products are currently scheduled for September.)
In short, the public mood was turning sour, bitter, and foul. Just like the Kaffee-Mix!
(4) HAHA WHOOPS NEVERMIND
The government quickly dropped its plans, stopping the rollout of the "Kaffee-Mix" and reducing its price. It also issued a series of public statements on the state of the global coffee market. The results of these efforts are documented in Report O/51 (September 26th, 1977).
The public has shown great interest in the announcement of the Ministry for Trade and Supply. We have observed the following tendencies in public opinion:
If loyalists voice concerns, and these concerns actually show up in a report, then the situation is pretty dire.
The youth would call this cope. The report has to put a positive spin on things, and the explanation probably did help to calm things down. But it's clear that the people just don't want Kaffee-Mix.
Negative-hostile forces claimed, among other things:
(...) There is persistent discontent, despite the statement the Ministry for Trade and Supply has made on the coffee situation. This regards so-called "creeping inflation," an alleged "contradiction" between ambitious plans and "increasing difficulties" in their execution, shortages, missing supplies, a lack of spare parts (e. g. for cars), and other things.
Note the heavy use of "scare quotes" in this section.
So yeah, they gave up after this. Kaffee-Mix was taken off the market, and the "Kosta" discount brand returned to store shelves.
EPILOGUE: Care packages, bean swaps, and historical irony
The situation on the world market had relaxed by then, so the problem wasn't as urgent anymore. But the DDR was back to spending hard currency reserves on unsustainable coffee imports. This meant further scrounging.
Some coffee could be begged from West Germany. The Westpaket was a care package that West Germans would send to East Germany, and so people with relatives in the West could ask to be sent coffee. This was theoretically supposed to be a form of trade, but the Ostpakete (sent from the East to the West) were not remotely comparable in value. Likewise, the East German government could get hard currency loans from West Germany, but that wasn't exactly sustainable. Also: Kind of humiliating.
Another measure was the euphemistically named "bean trade." That is to say, they traded "blue beans for brown beans."
... "blue beans" being a slang term that means "bullets."
They swapped weapons for coffee.
The main trade partner here was Ethiopia. After the 1974 coup d'état, the DDR established friendly relations with the military junta. It was supposed to be Marxist-Leninist after all. Ethiopia produced a decent amount of coffee, and the government was fighting a civil war at the time. So, East Germany sold weapons and munitions to Ethiopia, and took payment in coffee beans.
But this was ethically questionable, and it didn't actually solve the problem. Yes, it eased the shortage, but East Germany needed far more coffee than this. They had to think bigger.
Fortunately, another thing had occurred in the 1970s: The United States of America lost the Vietnam War. South Vietnam fell in 1975, and the Socialist Republic of Vietnam just so happened to be at the perfect latitude for coffee beans. (In fact, they were already growing and exporting small quantities.) This presented an opportunity. East Germany wanted to avoid future coffee shortages once and for all, without having to rely on expensive imports from the world market.
So, the DDR struck a series of deals with Vietnam. They sent down engineers and farming experts, and built up the coffee production. (By a factor of 14, to be exact.) They really went all-in on this - delivering machines, educating farmers, building out roads and irrigation systems and power plants, and providing housing. Vietnam wouldn't even have to pay for this up front. Instead, as a form of repayment, they would agree to give 50% of the harvest to East Germany for the next 20 years.
This would have worked, too. Goodbye shortages, goodbye warlords, hello Vietnamese coffee.
... except, well.
Farming began in the mid-1980s.
Coffee beans take 8 years to mature.
The German Democratic Republic collapsed in 1990.
Whoops.
And that's why, today, Vietnam is the second-largest exporter of coffee in the world.
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u/smerglec·49·
Großartig geschrieben. Vielen Dank fürs Teilen!
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u/ChaosOnline·49·
This is amazing! It such and interesting and niche bit of history. Thank you so much for sharing this here, I love this kind of thing!
u/UpbeatEquipment8832·15·
This is a delightful bit of history. Thank you for sharing this!
u/_pankates_·18·
So interesting and well researched, thank you for the write up.
u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire·137·
Excellent write up, particularly loved the little bit at the end.
There was an issue on my end with some of the quotes in the "(4) HAHA WHOOPS NEVERMIND" section not showing up.
Also, this might've been a skill issue on my part, but alternating between three different ways to refer to West Germany and East Germany was initially hard to keep track of, though I got the hang of it by the end.
u/hawkshaw1024·52·
Thank you for the kind words!
There was an issue on my end with some of the quotes in the "(4) HAHA WHOOPS NEVERMIND" section not showing up.
Yeah, sorry about that, it turns out that the rich text editor does not like combination of quotes and bullet points. I think it should work now.
u/Waifuless_Laifuless·1·
Great read, really interesting. Also a great deal if you're Vietnam.
u/cocaineinatallboycan·13·
Great write up! Never knew that the commies had so many coffee problems
u/stutter-rap·11·
They were all at it - I gather Romania's was particularly unpopular!
I know people who drink chicory-based "coffee" and it is not good stuff.
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u/LaLaMevia·1·
Very enjoyable read, but I think you messed up with some of the quotes - there's no text in some of them.
u/Fermooto·3·
Great write up!
u/Snickims·119·
Democracy, freedom of the press, the right to assemble, the right to not be disappeared by the secret police. All these are negotiable.
But you take away a workers morning coffee? Your fucking done mate.
u/ChaosOnline·84·
Honestly, it makes a weird sort of sense. Democracy, freedom of the press, the right to assemble, and the right to not be disappeared by the secret police aren't really things that affect people's lives on a day to day basis.
Coffee on the other hand is something people drink every morning and are chemically addicted to.
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u/Historyguy1·11·
See: People rarely get mad unless gas hits $4, then they're *pissed.*
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u/Im_a_knitiot·20·
Yeah, that situation is still talked about in my family. East Germans never forget…
u/Shiny_Agumon·40·
Awesome write up
Seems like Kaffee-Mix really was the worst of both worlds, too grainy to be an effective substitute but they still had to pay out the nose for real coffee beans.
Another East German favorite are bananas, I wonder why they never tried finding another exporter besides Cuba for this delicacy.
u/NeedsToShutUp·20·
Apparently today India and China are the number 1 and number 2 producers. But they needed a deal like with Vietnam where they could pay with something better than foreign currency.
u/Complete_Entry·7·
People never accept filler but it always happens.
u/mossgoblin·33·
Perfect thing to read with my coffee, excellent write-up.
u/NotLucasDavenport·29·
Did you add some peas for that authentic chunky experience?
u/Briak·1·
u/UnitedLink4545·7·
Always love this historic story. Never mess with people's coffee lol.
u/cannotfoolowls·4·
Hmm, I thought a couple of coffee producing countries were communist at the time? Like Cuba and Ethiopia.
u/NotLucasDavenport·9·
They were. It’s my recollection (not to be trusted without verification) that East Germany was using Cuba for all its citrus needs. I don’t know why they couldn’t add coffee to that, but they didn’t want to fuck up coffee AND oranges. There’d be mass hysteria.
u/Welterbestatus·11·
u/CriticalEngineering·7·
Ethiopia is mentioned in the write up.
u/NeedsToShutUp·7·
Small scale versus industrial scale. Ethiopia was also having a civil war, which impacts production.
Plus with coffee it requires altitude to grow. So Cuba isn't great for huge production numbers.
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u/scoobertsonville·19·
An amazing summary! I didn’t realize you could just mail stuff from West Germany into East Germany.
I assume it doesn’t happen today but it never even occurred to me that purchased ground coffee could be cut with anything and deemed acceptable, let along 49%, I wonder why they stopped at 49 when they probably could still just call it coffee even if it was under majority.
I’ll stick to beans lol
u/Welterbestatus·39·
The packages were called Westpakete (packages from the West) and you were really lucky if you had relatives in the West who would send packages.
Basically all Westpakete had coffee, and if there were kids also Nutella and chocolates (often Milka).
You would keep the good West German supermarket coffee for important events such as weddings and big birthday parties.
Christmas was the season for Westpakete, and only if you had well-meaning relatives you'd get more than one or two packages per year.
Of course the state would open packages to make sure nothing political was inside. Sometimes they even stole stuff from the packages and you'd receive only a fraction of what was supposed to be yours.
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u/Shiny_Agumon·18·
Despite their posturing about the Wall being an "Anti Fascist protective wall" the inner German border was actually pretty perforated from West to East.
West Germans (especially in West Berlin) had an easier time going into the GDR than vice versa and the GDR actually exported a lot of things into the West using western trucks and ships (because they didn't trust their own people to come back once over the border).
u/kami_sama·8·
I knew about the Vietnam-DDR coffee agreement, but it's great reading about the background of it all and having primary sources.
Great write-up!
u/bookdrops·9·
This is a delightful read and I hope that you can republish this article in a publication that gives you money and fame. Thank you!
u/CaffienatedCamel·6·
Is the hobby coffee, Marxism, or both? Of course communism in East Germany was no joke, but it seems like many of the online Marxists you run into these days are basically LARPers
u/DispenserG0inUp·17·
the hobby is learning about history
u/justaheatattack·12·
*They swapped weapons for coffee.*
seems like they could have started with this.
u/Lithorex·14·
The Capitalist world: *That's what we've been doing for decades!*
u/Nonions·7·
I love this write up, thank you!
I find the DDR an interesting subject and I'd never heard of this incident before, sounds like one of those things that though mundane, could have a big impact on the mood of the country.
The East Germany investigated channel also has some interesting stuff like this:
https://youtube.com/@eastgermanyinvestigated?si=YpGOrKWlUm_74RQG
u/poktanju·31·
A fun part of the film *Good Bye, Lenin!*, which takes place in East Berlin during the fall of the wall, is the main character's mother typing up those complaint letters for friends, always signing them off with *„mit sozialistischem Gruß“*!
u/stutter-rap·15·
Great writeup! If people visit the (excellent and free) Museum in der Kulturbrauerei in Berlin, they have an exhibit on the coffee crisis with some complaint letters on display. They are extremely scathing.[](https://www.berlin.de/en/tickets/exhibitions/everyday-life-in-the-gdr-115dc682-35a9-4378-8290-b7627cc983e9/)
u/OneVioletRose·7·
Fascinating - I actually drink what I assume to be one of those horrible barley drink mixes as a substitute for decaf - it is, indeed, not *great* on its own, but I mix it with hot chocolate to get something that tastes Close Enough to mocha but with less sugar and no caffeine.
u/carkey·5·
I loved this, great job! Your light-heated writing style is funny and makes it so easy to understand. I'm so glad I stumbled upon this sub Reddit a little while back!
u/Timeon·5·
One of the best posts I've ever read.
u/LucyFair13·21·
Out of curiosity: Did anything come of the coffee-deal with Vietnam after the German reunification? Or did Vietnam basically just renege on it since the country with which they made the deal didn’t exist anymore?
u/hawkshaw1024·37·
Nothing really came of it. As far as I can tell, the new government just retroactively declared the technical assistance to have been development aid, and wrote off the expense. And they helped to set up some deals between Vietnam and commercial importers. I think this wasn't exactly generosity, more like... actually taking the deliveries wouldn't have been worth the effort and the cost.
u/Lftwff·6·
The BRD didn't try to enforce the deal
u/cwmma·11·
According to Wikipedia, Germany is one of the biggest importers of Vietnamese coffee to this day.
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u/Veilchengerd·1·
Vietnam would have honoured the deal. They were mostly growing robusta coffee beans (they are more tolerant to environmental factors and afaik are a bit earlier ready for harvest). West german coffee producers however used arabica coffee. So West Germany had no use for the vietnamese harvest.
Nowadays, Vietnam also produces arabica coffee, and Germany buys quite a lot of it. Paying market rates.
u/watersnakebro·2·
Wow, this was so interesting!!! Thank you for this wonderful write up!!!
u/letsgetawayfromhere·25·
The word Muckefuck stems from the French word for fake coffee, mocca faux. It’s the typical import from French and then mangled by people who don’t speak French at all (other examples for words you’d never guess to be French imports are mittenmang or fisematenten).
(German and especially the Berlin dialect used to have lots of French words and expressions, some are still in use, some aren’t).
Other than that, very well written and funny. Thank you so much, I learnt a lot today!
u/DerBK·9·
The word Muckefuck stems from the French word for fake coffee, mocca faux.
Oh, that's interesting! I heard the term a lot, but always quietly assumed that it the name originated in some thinly veiled racism towards the east. A french origin is ... actually kinda cute. Mocca faux. I might use that :D
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u/s4ndbend3r·8·
Ooh, I've got a French word mangled to death from Bavaria: Schwowalier.
...If You haven't guessed it's supposed to be 'Chevalier'.
u/prefers_tea·-1·
This is incredible and I don’t even go here.
u/Inprobamur·24·
I remember reading a post on the same topic (maybe in some other subreddit) a few years back.
The coffee shortages were similarly a thing in the rest of the socialist world. Here in ESSR the state also experimented with chicory root based "coffee" (at least that kinda tasted like coffee and could be mixed in with real coffee). People with Finnish relatives mainly requested three things: large bags of the cheap sour Finnish coffee, denim fabric (that was considered very fashionable due to the state deliberately refusing to produce any) and plastic bags with printed images (another product that soviet science could not produce).
u/einmaldrin_alleshin·16·
ESSR
Estonian Socialist Soviet Republic, for anyone else wondering
u/br1nsop·1·
Chicory coffee blend is surprisingly good as a syrup for cold coffee drinks. Really nice in a iced latte
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u/Briak·1·
denim fabric (that was considered very fashionable due to the state deliberately refusing to produce any)
In middle school I read a short book about the history of denim jeans, and there was a story about an American(?) tourist in the USSR being held up at knifepoint by two teenage girls for his jeans
u/elfenohren999·3·
I'm not through the whole thing yet since I'm looking up tons of things but this is a fascinating read for a German living on the opposite end of the country + born after the Berlin Wall fell. Deep in the south-west, I always forget the DDR was "thing" at all, like there was this whole country with a distinct culture, politics, people, food and so on... and it's just gone. Huh. >good riddance tho<
u/Jakabxmarci·3·
I remember reading about this in the DDR museum in Berlin, fascinating stuff. Thanks for the writeup!
u/cheesedomino·1·
Well now you've made me really, really want a cup of coffee. And much like the East German government, I would also get into ethically dubious arms sales to obtain it.
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u/sacredblasphemies·2·
This is really interesting! Thanks!
u/TaylorSwiftkinsReid·27·
Parts of the Stasi archives survived the 1990 revolution, and therefore we actually have some access to primary sources.
There's a fun reason for this. Because the fall of the Wall was so abrupt (the Politburo member who announced it at a press conference wasn't told when the easing of the travel restrictions would come into force, so just shrugged and said "to my knowledge, immediately") the Stasi didn't have time to tidy up their records properly.
They had a mass shredding session until the shredders went kaput, sent agents to West Berlin to buy more - because East Germany was short of paper shredders, as well - and while waiting tore documents up by hand. But this was done in such an orderly fashion - whole drawers of documents shoved into the same bag - that they could be pieced back together again!
(Anna Funder's excellent book Stasiland is what I'm paraphrasing, it's a fantastic read)
u/Kilukpuk·2·
This was great, love learning about these historical dramas!
u/ChaosFlameEmber·3·
Thanks for linking that dialect site. Saxonian dialect is weird (say someone from Thuringia, while the dialects get confused way too often)
u/weakbecomeheroes·2·
Killer post!! Great info, good narrative, fun writeup. Thanks for posting!
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u/Cianistarle·2·
I loved this! Very interesting, enjoyed reading it!
u/-MazeMaker-·5·
"Baseless rumors about supposed price increases (which, I'll remind you, are scheduled for September)"
u/Spickernell·5·
everytime im about to unsubscribe from hobby drama, someone will come a long and write one like this. easy to relate to, about something real,, well written, etc. nice work, thank you
u/TheKydd·2·
Brilliant. You are a fantastic writer. I loved all the detail, the links to go down rabbit holes, but most importantly, your humor! Don’t see that much these days in long-form writing.
This must have taken a ton of work, thank you so much.
Now I want to find and devour whatever else you’ve written!
u/Briak·1·
"Muckefuck" sounds like a slur for a race/nationality that doesn't exist
u/elreyadr0k·1·
Fascinating and as others have said: great work.
I remember being young and reading about coffee and chicory down in New Orleans in various books. When the internet became a thing, I ordered a can from Cafe Du Monde to try it for the first time. To taste this famous mix I’ve read about. I was so stoked!
It was horrible and I learned that they did this at the time (added chicory) to save money (as in your example) and not, at all, because it was a unique and fun taste.
It was like mud in the coffee.
u/thilan45·1·
Ty for the write up, a fascinating piece of history i had no idea existed ❤️