Hi there,
I wondering what tools improve frustrations for developers when developing software with Python.
I am currently doing my Masters in Computer Science and as part of my project I am doing a very simple survey about what can make the usual Python development lifecycle less frustrating. I am basically trying to find out what the main friction points are for Python Developers and I am simultaneously developing a tool to address those friction points . It just takes a 2-3 minutes and every response is greatly appreciated.
You can find the survey at: https://forms.cloud.microsoft/e/LjnvzX0JpK
What do you think are the friction points? Have you spent time reviewing discuss.python.org or discussing it on https://discord.com/invite/python ?
Yeah, I made a first survey asking for exactly that and did some research before oc but the masters requires me to do my own survey. Most people answered things like: dependency management, typing system, but there were also some interesting points.
The main friction points are people.
Easy to solve, but usually gets you into prison.
True, sometimes its hard to agree on stuff, everyone thinks they know best
I started to answer and then after the first page only questions about a tool idc about. Why?
It was described on the first page, and also mentioned in this post. Just want to know weather it is addressing the right points. It is more about the idea weather if you would have a tool that addresses a friction point if that would make it more or less frustrating and not at all about the tool
Because OP just wants ideas of a project to work on and doesn’t actually know anything about software development
No, you have been a bad boy and this is your punishment. Or you think we do not know that think you have been doing.
uv (and ruff, to a lesser extent) have basically solved all the friction points that I used to have, which was the fragmented packaging and environments landscape (pip, virtualenv/venv, poetry, pyenv, etc.)
So true, astral-sh tools have made my life so much easier
Never used pyrig, couldn't get past the first page to give answers.
It is not about the tool at all, I shouldnt have mentioned it in the questions: The point of the survey is more: If a friction point was adressed like this, how frustrating would you find this friction point and then I compare it to my other survey
Developing in Python is not frustrating, when you know how to do it.
I agree very much
True for most things in life.
U with a side of V.
uv is truly such a great tool
python development isn't frustrating... that's why we use it
I agree very much, but there are always some things
Python's pretty frustrating when you've got dependency hell or you're trying to ship something that needs decent performance, but honestly most of the pain is just picking the right tool for the job - not every problem needs a web framework or async code. The community's actually gotten better about tooling lately with stuff like uv and pyenv making things less of a mess.