They don't see the work that we've done for ourselves; they think men "granted" women opportunities, the right to vote, etc.
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I've noticed that a lot of men I interact with complain about women not doing the bulk of the work including them.
Like "Women need to do more to include men into nursing/teaching/female-dominated professions."
"Women need to compliment men more because we're depressed."
"Women need to support men while they cry."
I'm just kind of confused why men can't do that?
Like, I'm pretty sure it wasn't the male doctors and scientists letting women in. It was other women. Women have friends and compliment each other. Women cry in front of their friends.
I know that it isn't exactly 1:1, and I am not going to pretend to understand the male experience. But why is it nearly always women being told what to do, and never "Hey men, check on your fellow men. Go into nail tech together" or something like that.
They don't see the work that we've done for ourselves; they think men "granted" women opportunities, the right to vote, etc.
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Because in our society women are seen as emotional labor slaves.
When you are used to a position of privilege, equality feels like oppression. It's just part off the culture of misogyny/patriarchy. The minute we decenter men and stop propping them up we are the bad guys. Women figured out that we need to do things for ourselves and for each other. Nursing and teaching were once the sole purview of men. Then there were generations of women who forced themselves into thise professions and they became devalued as a profession so now it's mostly women. Nobody is stopping a man from becoming a nurse except himself.
Nursing was started by Florence Nightingale during the Crimean War in the 1850's. It was created by a woman to help soldiers dying in the fields during that war. Men did not start to become nurses until much later. It's a field created by a woman. Never the sole purview of men.
My husband is a nurse. He's always been one of the very few male nurses at his jobs and he generally gets along well with his female coworkers. One of his "favorite" activities was taking on creepy male patients when a female coworker felt unsafe. Oh, creepy dude is demanding a full body sponge bath from a nurse? My husband would magically be available to help out. Anyway, something that has infuriated him about nursing has been the Golden Escalator, which is the opposite of the Golden Ceiling that women encounter in careers. So he has taken on the task of becoming a pain in the ass to upper management in order to advocate for his coworkers. He hates that upper management will listen to him but not the women that have been at the job decades longer, but he's willing to fight it for them. Oh, and when he became a nurse, my not-dad made fun of him as being less of a man. Obviously, we both ignored this, but it's a common devaluation of nursing being women's work. A decade later, my husband started a job at the same organization my brother (not a nurse) worked at. My not-dad suddenly saw my husband as a successful man, doing manly things, even though the scope of his job is the same. It's men keeping men down.
Because everything is always on women. Because woman are “nurturing”; they are to be used and discarded. And they will be happy because they enabled someone else. It’s their destiny, after all. Sarcasm, of course, but this is a prevalent belief about kind and selfless people in general. But you enjoy being kind! Just do it for the experience lol.
Because, at least from a guy's perspective, there was a huge push to include women in various things, from hobbies to movements to jobs.
Yeah but the push I feel was often from other women.
men can be as threatening to men as they are to women. that doesn't justify complaining, but it does explain why women are often more effective.
This sounds like a generational thing. I have never seen this.