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r/startrek · u/PaperSkin-11 août 2026, 12:01

Why is Pike sidelined so much in his own show?

Another episode where Kirk overtakes the show..

Kirk has his show, it was the original one.. SNW is emant to be Pike, that's why the show exists in the first place because people liked this version of Pike, and yet they keep sidelining him..

Does anyone else find this odd?

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u/Copious-Spirit11 août 2026, 12:05
Young Kirk is in like, 5 episodes? His brother is in like one, two? Does everyone think the show is going to end as foretold? With Pike melting?
- u/Tuskin3811 août 2026, 12:07
  They’re not going to change Pike’s fate.
- u/CanOfPenisJuice11 août 2026, 12:11
  Yes. Then he'll go to an imagination planet amd look normal and bang some chick who looks hot for the rest of his life whilst aliens watch them
  - u/MrPNGuin11 août 2026, 12:11
  - u/5pl1t1nf1n1t1v311 août 2026, 12:18
  - u/Xytak11 août 2026, 12:19
u/cgknight111 août 2026, 12:05
Not really, because they knew at this point in production that SNW was ending and this was part of an attempt to get the next series up and running with Kirk and so on. (An attempt that, as far as we know, didn't work).
- u/Tuskin3811 août 2026, 12:08
  They didn’t know the show was ending when they filmed season 4.
u/Rare_Sugar_792711 août 2026, 12:05
Yeah i think that too. I wish theyd not had all the characters from TOS in it, especially with how they are rewriting them.
- u/Tuskin3811 août 2026, 12:09
  They haven’t rewritten them, they’ve added more to them.
  - u/SwellBluePigeon11 août 2026, 12:30
- u/PomegranateFair397311 août 2026, 12:17
  I mean, you kinda have to have Spock, but man did they rewrite the hell out of him. But Chapel, M'Benga, and Uhura... Oy. Turn Chapel from a tragic unrequited love into a manic pixy dream girl destined to be a clingy ex. M'Benga is now the CMO, between two other CMOs, before becoming subordinate to yet *another* CMO... Uhura, it seems, had the least damage done. But somehow still doesn't feel like the same character, even taking into account that it's a new interpretation played by new actress. Of course, how can it be the same character when modern Trek isn't allowed to have competent crew members who, even the most emotional and empathetic of them, isn't constantly ruled *by* those emotions? But yeah, one of the things that bugged me right off the bat was that, beyond the main three of Pike, Spock, and Number One, they completely ignored Pike's original crew. And now, by continuing to introduce more and more regular series TOS characters, we're also ignoring Kirk's original crew as seen in Where No Man Has Gone Before. The only thing that matters is having flashy new versions of the TOS crew tailored to the tastes of audiences who refuse to actually watch the "dated" actual TOS...
  - u/Comrades311 août 2026, 12:54
u/TommenHypeSlayer11 août 2026, 12:09
Definitely one of the weakest points of SNW. And its a sin because Mount's Pike is really charismatic. And something similar feels with Una, as First Officer we barely see anything of her (probably eclipsed by Spocks role).
u/Rocktype211 août 2026, 12:10
Because the writers are weak as is the direction of the franchise
- u/Tuskin3811 août 2026, 12:11
  Wrong
  - u/Rocktype211 août 2026, 12:191 réponse
u/pseudonym708311 août 2026, 12:12
In universe, he already knows his fate. Meta, they were planning on pivoting to a Kirk-centered TOS prequel directly after SNW but the Paramount shakeup happened.
- u/Tuskin3811 août 2026, 12:16
  Year One was a dream, not an actual planned series.
  - u/pseudonym708311 août 2026, 12:181 réponse
u/nedwasatool11 août 2026, 12:12
Pike is sidelined in his own show and upstaged by his own hair.
u/ThisAccountIsForDNF11 août 2026, 12:15

Does anyone else find this odd?

Not really.

It's not like every episode of TNG was about Picard, or DS9 was about Sisko.

To me Star trek always works best when it's an ensemble cast and each gets their own episodes.

Never really thought of Star trek as a series with a main character that needs more focus than anyone else.
- u/Guyuute11 août 2026, 12:23
  Did you watch any of Discovery?
  - u/ThisAccountIsForDNF11 août 2026, 12:262 réponses
  - u/Zammin41 août 2026, 12:50
u/Skie11 août 2026, 12:22
Trek has always been an ensemble cast show since TNG, and even TOS avoided being only about Kirk. (just ignore Discovery, because that is the healthy thing to do) Which does mean sometimes your favourite character will be largely absent. Or your most hated Klingon child will be a focus for far too many minutes. It's not the Pike show, though he was in ep 2 plenty anyway.
u/NimRodelle11 août 2026, 12:25
They were setting Kirk up for the spinoff show that's never going to be made now that Paramount has decided to shelve the whole franchise.
- u/Tuskin3811 août 2026, 12:26
  The Spin off was never a guarantee. It was just a dream of Akiva’s.
  - u/NimRodelle21 août 2026, 12:45
- u/Copious-Spirit21 août 2026, 14:28
  That's too bad, it's the only reason fore to subscribe to that studio. All their other stuff is weird cowboy conserva-slop
  - u/NimRodelle11 août 2026, 15:24
u/Tuskin3811 août 2026, 12:25
I know for Season 2 Anson requested less screen time as he just had a new kid and wanted to spend more time with his family. I’m not sure if that’s still the case or not.
u/SwellBluePigeon11 août 2026, 12:28
The people who make Strange New Worlds don’t like their own show as much as we do. They’re more interested in retelling TOS stories (badly) than they are telling new stories with their own characters.
u/yekimevol11 août 2026, 12:32
Because the show has lost direction for me which is very surprising when you only have ten episode seasons.
u/freedom41011 août 2026, 12:34
Agree. SNW went from being a breath of fresh air to yet another attempt to recycle Trek nostalgia
- u/PaperSkin-121 août 2026, 13:46
  Yep, the show started really well, but honestly it's not lived up to that strong start (the first 6 episodes of season 1) it's been diminishing returns since
u/JewelKnightJess11 août 2026, 12:37
I love Andson and Pike, but i think snw is a great ensemble show that lets its whole cast shine. I much prefer this to if it was just The Pike Show. Its what most turned me off Disco, it felt a bit too centralised on one character, at least in the first few seasons.
u/janeway17011 août 2026, 12:37
That’s what I wanna know. Season 3 was the worst for it. On top of making his whole personality Batel. I can’t stand season 3 partly for that reason. I miss pike from discovery😢
u/ExpertHour519711 août 2026, 12:39
I think they were doing that to set up for Year One at the end of SNW, but the nepobaby at Paramount put the brakes on that.
u/Shopping_General01 août 2026, 12:41
I think I may have to ditch this sub because it's just people bitching about strange new worlds not being a complete shot for shot remake of the original series. You people not like anything? Stop watching the fucking show if all you're going to do is bitch.
- u/mayhemski12311 août 2026, 12:59
  The weekend warrior's who turn up like clockwork to try shit on everything from the current era is getting very boring it's true. Most have a really, really bad understanding of Trek and understanding of what it was/is. They are desperate to try shape the narrative to some weird arse take that has very little to do with Trek. It's kinda tragic really, I think most are stuck in a nostalgia trap chasing a lost youth, teenage years, they associate with. Thing is they completely forget all the crap and criticism those shows and got at the same time. Some was deeply racist and misogynistic as well. Some of those I personally remember were: A: Having women as a security chief, bridge officer or shock horror - Captain B: The audacity to have a show on a station not a ship C: The notion of a black man being in charge D: The idea of a war where the Federation & Star Fleet aren't paragons of virtue or super warriors The fake claims of poor writing that gets thrown around currently like a cheap catch-all, get out jail free card for their repetitive takes is personally the worse bit. And god knows how many times they have to be told how modern TV works it is frankly bizarre. It's not even good trolling, just makes them seem, and I mean this in the kindest way possible a bit special.
  - u/PaperSkin-111 août 2026, 13:431 réponse
- u/PaperSkin-111 août 2026, 13:40
  What are you on about, how am I asking it to be like TOS when I'm literally saying we should have less of Kirk and actually have the captain Pike be the main focus
u/NorwayTrees21 août 2026, 12:44
Interesting take and agree. My impression was that they knew this was the last season so F it, they were gonna just write whatever they want. I enjoyed the creepy episode. Wondering what else crazy they are gonna do I do feel like Spoke is overly represented in this show. I like him but..
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u/PurpleHawkeye61911 août 2026, 13:00
Pike as a character is fundamentally a dead end. With existing cast (Spock, Uhura, Chapel, Mbenga, Kirk etc) you can write complexities into the characters to change how we relate to them in TOS (should they do this is a do this is a different question) With Una and the new characters (Laan Ortegas etc) they are the only ones who can truly be at risk of death since we know they have to disappear before TOS. And they are essentially a blank check to be written however the team wants. But Pike is neither of these things. Hes one step up from a vegetable in TOS. His fate is known like the existing cast so cant be believably at risk, and there's no complexity that can be written in to change his characters interpretation in TOS. Hes a dead end. The sad part is, I suspect (especially after Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow straight up says the timelines been altered) the final twist of the show is Pike escapes his fate. But since they don't want to give that away, his character is being sacrificed to keep the twist a secret.
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